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pozorvlak ([personal profile] pozorvlak) wrote2008-06-02 07:01 pm
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Counting in hexadecimal on your fingers

A simple and occasionally handy trick which deserves to be better known.

Use your thumb as a pointer, and your finger joints and fingertips to represent the numbers. Thus:
  • Thumb pointing to base of index finger = 0
  • Thumb pointing to first joint of index finger = 1
  • Thumb pointing to second joint of index finger = 2
  • Thumb pointing to tip of index finger = 3
  • Thumb pointing to base of middle finger = 4
    ...
  • Thumb pointing to tip of little finger = F = 15
By using both hands, you can either have a counter with two hex digits (so you can count from 0 to 255), or two separate counters. You can use the same trick to count in base 12: ignore the fingertips, and just count on the joints. A nice side-effect of counting like this (as I discovered this afternoon) is that to casual observers you look like you're meditating: hold your hands palm upwards and stare at something for the full effect.

I learned this trick from an early chapter of Georges Ifrah's monumental Universal History of Numbers, the bulk of which has sat accusingly unread on my bookshelves since roughly 2002. While it looks fascinating, it's also about six inches thick (it's spread over three volumes), and thus is rather intimidating. The trick was listed as one of the ways in which pre-literate peoples count: the general rule is "by enumerating parts of their bodies in a predefined sequence", but the number and sequence of the parts varies from people to people (though less than you'd think). Base sixteen isn't as common a number base as 10 or 12, but it's far from unknown. Another interesting titbit from the book was the list of independent reinventions of "Roman" numbers: it seems that they're essentially the obvious way of counting using notches on a stick after "one notch per item" becomes unwieldy.

[Totally confused by this entry? Hexadecimal notation (or base 16) is a way of writing numbers down. In ordinary decimal notation, each column describes numbers ten times the size of the numbers in the column to its right; the sequence is ... thousands, hundreds, tens, units, tenths, hundredths, ... . In hexadecimal, each column describes numbers sixteen times the size of the numbers in the column to its right. This has all sorts of uses in computing and electronics. For more, see here.]

Edit: Reddit thread. And it seems I was totally wrong in thinking this technique was confined to preliterate people - it's extremely common throughout the Indian subcontinent, and probably further afield! I do like it when I learn something new from comments on a blog post. See the comments below for more finger-counting techniques (and yes, I already know about the sodding binary technique, I just choose not to use it because it's extremely uncomfortable for me. Happy? :-) ).

[identity profile] shuripentu.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently such finger-counting methods are also used in prayer. So be careful; it might make you look religious. ;)

[identity profile] necaris.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
A simple and occasionally handy trick which deserves to be better known.
Actually, this is how I learned to count on my fingers. It's common in South Asia -- seeing [livejournal.com profile] shuripentu's link above makes me wonder if it's not a more general Muslim thing.

[identity profile] neoanjou.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
What exactly do you mean by 'Roman' numerals? I think there are pretty much three systems that I have come across;
i) 'Counting' notation (count symbols for given numbers, e.g. Egyptian, Roman)
ii) Quasi-place notation (different symbols for 1,2,3...10,20,30...100,200,300)
iii) True place notation (ours!)

Do you mean the first, or including more of the details which I would consider to be specific to 'Roman' numbers - i.e. symbols representing [1/5]*10^x...

binary

(Anonymous) 2008-06-02 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
You can also count in binary on your fingers. Finger up = 1, finger down = 0. Be careful of the number four, though

I count in constants!

[identity profile] mozey.wordpress.com (from livejournal.com) 2008-06-02 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
SWEET, love that trick. And much needed, ever since my attempt of counting in constants was a flop. (http://mozey.wordpress.com/2008/03/28/euler-phi-e-pi/) People just did'nt think that it was as cool as i thought!.

Another Method

(Anonymous) 2008-06-02 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The first 5 are fairly obvious
0 = Closed Fist
1 = Thumb
2 = Th + Index
3 = Th + Index + middle
4 = Th + index + middle + ring
5 = Th + index + middle + ring + pinky

the sequence continues the opposite direction by changing the next digit in sequence.

6 = Th + index + middle + ____ + pinky
7 = Th + index + ______ + ____ + pinky
8 = Th + _____ + ______ + ____ + pinky (Hang loose)
9 = __ + _____ + ______ + ____ + pinky

then keep going

10= __ + index + ______ + ____ + pinky (Metal Rules)
11= __ + index + middle + ____ + pinky
12= __ + index + middle + ring + pinky
13= __ + index + middle + ring + _____
14= __ + index + middle + ____ + _____
15= __ + index + ______ + ____ + _____

Two hands does 256.
And, it is viewable from a distance unlike counting the joints on each finger.

255?/Hex? Binary = 1023

(Anonymous) 2008-06-02 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You can go 4 times higher with binary. I've done this while counting paces, with the hands behind my back. It's easy, and if you ever "lose count", your most significant digits aren't moving often anyway and will tell you roughly where you were.

(Anonymous) 2008-06-02 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Getting a single digit up to 15 isn't really counting 'in hex' -- it's not a positional number system at all. Compare with the 'counting binary on your fingers' where one hand gets you up to 31, resetting your thumb every time.

[identity profile] toxik.myopenid.com (from livejournal.com) 2008-06-03 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
With a good chance that I'm stating the obvious:
Use only two fingers for 8-based, i.e., octal.

Anyway, cool as hell!

Been done for centuries in counting Teen-Tal

(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
The Hindustani rhythm teen-tal has been counted this way for centuries.

hehehehe

(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I think you meant "tidbit" instead of "titbit." Unless you're trying an interesting new method of counting in trinary... :D

I don't understand

(Anonymous) 2008-06-05 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
what is this counting good for? I now can count from 0 to 15 (F) using my hand. what do you use it for? I can count that far already by using only my brain. This is confusing, can someone explain the actual usage?

I should say

(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I agreed with you

counting

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Counting in octal was always fun.
one, two ... seven, oct, octy-one, octy-two ... octy-seven, twoct, twocty-one, twocty-two ... twocty-seven, throct, throcty-one, etc up to sevocty-seven, octy-oct. (Decimal 64)

thanks much

(Anonymous) 2008-09-24 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
thats it, dude

thank you

(Anonymous) 2008-09-28 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
omg.. good work, brother

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